Comments on: Henceforth, I dub thee GLAMP http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2008/02/21/henceforth-i-dub-thee-glamp/ Stay curious! Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:59:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Keith Bowes http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2008/02/21/henceforth-i-dub-thee-glamp/#comment-14329 Keith Bowes Mon, 24 Mar 2008 02:46:48 +0000 http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2008/02/21/henceforth-i-dub-thee-glamp/#comment-14329 GNU/Linux is fine by me, though it's a bit unnecessary (one can generally tell by context whether you're talking about the kernel or the OS based on it). The only problem I have with the term is that other non-GNU software is used in the modern Linux system (X, window manager, browser, etc.). GNU/Linux is fine by me, though it’s a bit unnecessary (one can generally tell by context whether you’re talking about the kernel or the OS based on it). The only problem I have with the term is that other non-GNU software is used in the modern Linux system (X, window manager, browser, etc.).

]]> By: Neil K http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2008/02/21/henceforth-i-dub-thee-glamp/#comment-14270 Neil K Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:39:46 +0000 http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2008/02/21/henceforth-i-dub-thee-glamp/#comment-14270 The Linux vs Gnu/Linux distinction seems to be lost, a long, long time ago. I think its easier to just call the operating system "Linux" and when referring to the kernal, call it "Linux Kernal". The Linux vs Gnu/Linux distinction seems to be lost, a long, long time ago.

I think its easier to just call the operating system “Linux” and when referring to the kernal, call it “Linux Kernal”.

]]> By: Nathaniel http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2008/02/21/henceforth-i-dub-thee-glamp/#comment-14250 Nathaniel Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:40:01 +0000 http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2008/02/21/henceforth-i-dub-thee-glamp/#comment-14250 If anyone cares to attend another free, open to the public talk of Richard Stallman's, you can learn about one being held in Richmond, VA at this link: http://www.egr.vcu.edu/cs/research/seminars_spring08.html If anyone cares to attend another free, open to the public talk of Richard Stallman’s, you can learn about one being held in Richmond, VA at this link:

http://www.egr.vcu.edu/cs/research/seminars_spring08.html

]]> By: Mitch Wright http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2008/02/21/henceforth-i-dub-thee-glamp/#comment-14242 Mitch Wright Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:08:15 +0000 http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2008/02/21/henceforth-i-dub-thee-glamp/#comment-14242 *sigh* A "world without Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP" would simply be filled with FreeBSD (or OS/X), Nginx, Postgres, and Perl. LAMP is good, but there are plenty of equally good alternatives that would keep us away from the world of Microsoft products. Anyway... *sigh* A “world without Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP” would simply be filled with FreeBSD (or OS/X), Nginx, Postgres, and Perl. LAMP is good, but there are plenty of equally good alternatives that would keep us away from the world of Microsoft products.

Anyway…

]]> By: gleeeenus http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2008/02/21/henceforth-i-dub-thee-glamp/#comment-14241 gleeeenus Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:03:49 +0000 http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2008/02/21/henceforth-i-dub-thee-glamp/#comment-14241 i read your post very G-lee-fully! Fwiw, we should start referring to Linus as GLeenoos! (ducks, runs for cover...) Apart from the joke, yes, I agree not many know that merely by SURFING the www, people are using maybe a 100 (surely 15-20) -GEE-NU GPLed software. The GPL is probably the only license that is not popularly referred to as "GNU GPL" - look at other "popular" licenses - MIT, X11, BSD, MPL, PHP, so many. Almost everyone knows who's behind the license. In contrast, GPL is "General Public License". This is real-world, common use, I'm not trying to be a fanboy or a fanatic. But LAMP has a mystical conntation to it - bringing light to the darkness that would otherwise reign. Imagine a world without Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP - it would be commonplace for servers to crash on a daily basis and for anyone to lose credit card information and so, cash, every week. i read your post very G-lee-fully!
Fwiw, we should start referring to Linus as GLeenoos!
(ducks, runs for cover…)

Apart from the joke, yes, I agree not many know that merely by SURFING the www, people are using maybe a 100 (surely 15-20) -GEE-NU GPLed software.

The GPL is probably the only license that is not popularly referred to as “GNU GPL” - look at other “popular” licenses - MIT, X11, BSD, MPL, PHP, so many.
Almost everyone knows who’s behind the license.
In contrast, GPL is “General Public License”.

This is real-world, common use, I’m not trying to be a fanboy or a fanatic.

But LAMP has a mystical conntation to it - bringing light to the darkness that would otherwise reign. Imagine a world without Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP - it would be commonplace for servers to crash on a daily basis and for anyone to lose credit card information and so, cash, every week.

]]> By: andy http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2008/02/21/henceforth-i-dub-thee-glamp/#comment-14240 andy Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:24:25 +0000 http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2008/02/21/henceforth-i-dub-thee-glamp/#comment-14240 christ, give it up on this tired dog. it's fricking linux, ok? christ, give it up on this tired dog.

it’s fricking linux, ok?

]]> By: Mitch Wright http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2008/02/21/henceforth-i-dub-thee-glamp/#comment-14239 Mitch Wright Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:43:51 +0000 http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2008/02/21/henceforth-i-dub-thee-glamp/#comment-14239 I'm sure we could come up with a bunch of acronyms to match up with solutions, but in my experience the term LAMP is used to cover them all regardless of the actual version of [free] UNIX, web server, ... and that's not such a bad thing. It falls in line with the KISS principle. I’m sure we could come up with a bunch of acronyms to match up with solutions, but in my experience the term LAMP is used to cover them all regardless of the actual version of [free] UNIX, web server, … and that’s not such a bad thing. It falls in line with the KISS principle.

]]> By: Dan http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2008/02/21/henceforth-i-dub-thee-glamp/#comment-14238 Dan Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:03:12 +0000 http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2008/02/21/henceforth-i-dub-thee-glamp/#comment-14238 How 'bout: NAMP - *nix, Apache, etc... AMP - Apache, etc... on whatever platform you want (scalable acronym) How ’bout:

NAMP - *nix, Apache, etc…
AMP - Apache, etc… on whatever platform you want (scalable acronym)

]]> By: Mitch Wright http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2008/02/21/henceforth-i-dub-thee-glamp/#comment-14237 Mitch Wright Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:36:12 +0000 http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2008/02/21/henceforth-i-dub-thee-glamp/#comment-14237 I think the term LAMP has become even more generic. We run a lot of FreeBSD boxes, so I suppose technically we are more of a FAMP or GFAMP. I think of LAMP as meaning an opensource "UNIX-like" server with a webserver, database, and scripting language. The fact that it is using GNU tools is fairly moot. Whether it is gcc or another [decent] C-compiler doesn't make or break the architecture. For example, if someone is using Postgres instead of MySQL, we don't see people saying they are using a LAPP architecture. Just my quick two cents worth. I think the term LAMP has become even more generic. We run a lot of FreeBSD boxes, so I suppose technically we are more of a FAMP or GFAMP. I think of LAMP as meaning an opensource “UNIX-like” server with a webserver, database, and scripting language. The fact that it is using GNU tools is fairly moot. Whether it is gcc or another [decent] C-compiler doesn’t make or break the architecture.

For example, if someone is using Postgres instead of MySQL, we don’t see people saying they are using a LAPP architecture.

Just my quick two cents worth.

]]> By: Xaprb http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2008/02/21/henceforth-i-dub-thee-glamp/#comment-14236 Xaprb Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:21:07 +0000 http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2008/02/21/henceforth-i-dub-thee-glamp/#comment-14236 Oh wait, I missed something Sheeri was saying. Sheeri, saying GNU/Linux isn't saying GNU is an operating system. But you *can* build a complete operating system with just GNU and Linux (and a stripped-down operating system, like a basic Gentoo install, is actually very little else). That's why it deserves to be called GNU/Linux and not GNU/Linux/iostat. GNU is far more than just a toolchain. It is the mortar, most of the bricks, and the keystone. (The Linux kernel is a large-ish brick; iostat is a screw in a hinge.) Oh wait, I missed something Sheeri was saying. Sheeri, saying GNU/Linux isn’t saying GNU is an operating system. But you *can* build a complete operating system with just GNU and Linux (and a stripped-down operating system, like a basic Gentoo install, is actually very little else). That’s why it deserves to be called GNU/Linux and not GNU/Linux/iostat. GNU is far more than just a toolchain. It is the mortar, most of the bricks, and the keystone. (The Linux kernel is a large-ish brick; iostat is a screw in a hinge.)

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