Comments on: The manager-programmer face-off over NoSQL

By: Parvesh Garg

Parvesh Garg — Wed, 16 Jun 2010 06:05:43 +0000

The whole developer “takes action” starts when management wants him to solve the problem but remain conservative. I believe any organization (big or small) has to have the culture right. The culture has to promote innovation (NiH), exploration (Paprika) to keep the developers happy with coolness. The culture also has to see if finally the technologies used are going to give the managers nightmare. One simple way is to let the developers loose to use Paprika if some basic questions are answered:

– What is the popularity of this software? Is it easy to find people around this technology.
– Who is behind this? Community size? Activity? Companies? Their past behavior?
– What are the monitoring tools available around this?
etc, etc.

And as Roland said, this is true for everything.

I believe I repeated most of the post itself but couldn’t help but speak from developer side as well :)

By: Xaprb

Xaprb — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:43:41 +0000

I understand how it might look, but it’s not about protecting consulting business. I’m not that kind of guy, and I have no illusions about my lack of power to influence people — you can’t fight a trend. It’s about helping people understand choices. Besides, I think some of the new databases are really cool, and even traditional relational databases will benefit from the ideas they are introducing. It’s kind of a Cambrian explosion, similar to what I’ve seen in many other areas of technology. Some of the technologies will thrive, and that’s good. In the meantime a lot of purely psychological factors are driving people’s ostensibly technical decisions and recommendations. This, too, is expected.

By: mbp_cmplr

mbp_cmplr — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:38:26 +0000

At one point in time MySQL was considered the same kind of ‘haunting technology’ and looked at in the same way that you’re debasing NoSQL offerings. You wouldn’t be doing what you are doing now if it weren’t for programmers and managers taking a risk with new tech.

I get that you’re concerned about your consulting services by the threat of having to train your team on some of the NoSQL software being used more and more lately, but bashing new tech for the sake of being new tech sounds like hypocrisy.

By: cowardlydragon

cowardlydragon — Wed, 12 May 2010 19:09:31 +0000

Another factor:

Database groups become so regimented and trouble-ticket focused, that they cease to be useful to development projects. Of course you can’t install a competing SQL product.

So invent a basis of need for NoSQL and get full administration and control over your datastore.

By: Marcelle Paisley

Marcelle Paisley — Wed, 12 May 2010 07:53:52 +0000

Tim, I think the point is innovative but balanced. Xaprb, I agree, boring customers are worth their weight in gold, while innovative customers are necessary in small doses to keep the spirit alive. ;)