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	<title>Comments on: Under-provisioning: the curse of the cloud</title>
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	<description>Stay curious!</description>
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		<title>By: Xaprb</title>
		<link>http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2010/06/01/under-provisioning-the-curse-of-the-cloud/#comment-18382</link>
		<dc:creator>Xaprb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 15:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we need to do away with &quot;Green&quot; and bring back &quot;The ecology.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we need to do away with &#8220;Green&#8221; and bring back &#8220;The ecology.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Pipes</title>
		<link>http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2010/06/01/under-provisioning-the-curse-of-the-cloud/#comment-18381</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Pipes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 15:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Baron!

Yep, fully agree with your assessments (and Theo&#039;s FTM).

I completely agree that the cloud has been over-hyped, at least in areas of marketing to people that don&#039;t understand its use cases.  But, such is the nature of technical marketing (Web 2.0 anyone?)

Cheers!

jay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Baron!</p>
<p>Yep, fully agree with your assessments (and Theo&#8217;s FTM).</p>
<p>I completely agree that the cloud has been over-hyped, at least in areas of marketing to people that don&#8217;t understand its use cases.  But, such is the nature of technical marketing (Web 2.0 anyone?)</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
<p>jay</p>
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		<title>By: Xaprb</title>
		<link>http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2010/06/01/under-provisioning-the-curse-of-the-cloud/#comment-18379</link>
		<dc:creator>Xaprb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 23:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, yes.  Single-core performance (and single-node performance) matters a lot, and that isn&#039;t always clear to people who are thinking about cloud deployments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, yes.  Single-core performance (and single-node performance) matters a lot, and that isn&#8217;t always clear to people who are thinking about cloud deployments.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Berkus</title>
		<link>http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2010/06/01/under-provisioning-the-curse-of-the-cloud/#comment-18378</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Berkus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 23:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baron,

There&#039;s a further problem with the limited performance of cloud VMs, which is that the ceiling on performance is relatively low.  That is, in an individual cloud VM I can&#039;t even get the throughput I&#039;d get off a mid-priced 1U server EC2, for example, tops out at rather slow 7 vcores. So provisioning correctly requires moving to a level of horizontal scalability an order of magnitude larger than would be required on colo servers.  Which would be fine if horizontal scaling of databases was perfectly linear, but of course it isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baron,</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a further problem with the limited performance of cloud VMs, which is that the ceiling on performance is relatively low.  That is, in an individual cloud VM I can&#8217;t even get the throughput I&#8217;d get off a mid-priced 1U server EC2, for example, tops out at rather slow 7 vcores. So provisioning correctly requires moving to a level of horizontal scalability an order of magnitude larger than would be required on colo servers.  Which would be fine if horizontal scaling of databases was perfectly linear, but of course it isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Xaprb</title>
		<link>http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2010/06/01/under-provisioning-the-curse-of-the-cloud/#comment-18377</link>
		<dc:creator>Xaprb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 20:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morgan, I think you&#039;re talking about this (from the end of http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/):

&lt;blockquote&gt;Amazon EC2 provides virtualized server instances. While some resources like CPU, memory and instance storage are dedicated to a particular instance, other resources like the network and the disk subsystem are shared among instances. If each instance on a physical host tries to use as much of one of these shared resources as possible, each will receive an equal share of that resource. However, when a resource is under-utilized you will often be able to consume a higher share of that resource while it is available.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morgan, I think you&#8217;re talking about this (from the end of <a href="http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/" rel="nofollow">http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/</a>):</p>
<blockquote><p>Amazon EC2 provides virtualized server instances. While some resources like CPU, memory and instance storage are dedicated to a particular instance, other resources like the network and the disk subsystem are shared among instances. If each instance on a physical host tries to use as much of one of these shared resources as possible, each will receive an equal share of that resource. However, when a resource is under-utilized you will often be able to consume a higher share of that resource while it is available.</p></blockquote>
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