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		<title>Comment on More details about SchoonerSQL performance, please! by Darpan Dinker</title>
		<link>http://www.xaprb.com/blog/2012/02/02/more-details-about-schoonersql-performance-please/#comment-19870</link>
		<dc:creator>Darpan Dinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Working with Baron and Vadim (thanks), I was able to decipher the output of tpcc-mysql (it can be definitely improved :) ).

I have updated my blog with a throughput charts - for folks who want to look at the stability of the same SchoonerSQL run:

http://darpanetwork.blogspot.com/2012/01/schoonersql-throughput-with-perconas.html

Yes, I will add more details after understanding the output some more with Vadim&#039;s help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working with Baron and Vadim (thanks), I was able to decipher the output of tpcc-mysql (it can be definitely improved :) ).</p>
<p>I have updated my blog with a throughput charts &#8211; for folks who want to look at the stability of the same SchoonerSQL run:</p>
<p><a href="http://darpanetwork.blogspot.com/2012/01/schoonersql-throughput-with-perconas.html" rel="nofollow">http://darpanetwork.blogspot.com/2012/01/schoonersql-throughput-with-perconas.html</a></p>
<p>Yes, I will add more details after understanding the output some more with Vadim&#8217;s help.</p>
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		<title>Comment on More details about SchoonerSQL performance, please! by Darpan Dinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darpan Dinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,
Good point.

Let&#039;s see if I can move you along this process:
Doubt -&gt; Verify -&gt; Trust.

Darpan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,<br />
Good point.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see if I can move you along this process:<br />
Doubt -&gt; Verify -&gt; Trust.</p>
<p>Darpan</p>
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		<title>Comment on More details about SchoonerSQL performance, please! by Peter Laursen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Laursen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 08:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember some years back that SolidDB (now discontinued) published a benchmark &#039;proving&#039; that it handled many times more transactions per second than InnoDB. It could not be verified independently unless a specific testcase was used.

So I can only agree that all details (configurations, data, queries/scripts) should be available. As long as this is not the case any postulate is as good as another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember some years back that SolidDB (now discontinued) published a benchmark &#8216;proving&#8217; that it handled many times more transactions per second than InnoDB. It could not be verified independently unless a specific testcase was used.</p>
<p>So I can only agree that all details (configurations, data, queries/scripts) should be available. As long as this is not the case any postulate is as good as another.</p>
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		<title>Comment on More details about SchoonerSQL performance, please! by Darpan Dinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darpan Dinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 07:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Baron,

No question Percona did a thorough job writing the white-paper for Clustrix. Having done performance benchmarking, I can surely understand the time it would have taken to execute all those runs, validating data (rerunning benchmarks if necessary) and then plotting all the results.

I think its easy to get carried away with the title of Pavan&#039;s blog. 9 Clustrix nodes with 48GB DRAM each = 432GB, incidentally the size of the 5000 warehouse tpcc-mysql database. The core question is if the scalability of Clustrix efficient? I picked one data-point to pursue that question. To make that point, I blogged about it here: http://darpanetwork.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-scalable-is-clustrix-scalability.html
and then put in tpcc-mysql details:
http://darpanetwork.blogspot.com/2012/01/schoonersql-throughput-with-perconas.html

BTW I did want to ensure stable environment and results, so I did have a 4 hour long run.

If you provide a cheat-sheet, in addition to the CPU util chart already posted, I will add throughput and latency charts for the run.

So let me ask this: lets say you validated my results. Will you ask the question: for what workloads and price/performance will a Clustrix or similar building-block (with a fraction of throughput capability) be better suited for?

If someone pays me, I will love to do 128 runs for comparison - any takers? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Baron,</p>
<p>No question Percona did a thorough job writing the white-paper for Clustrix. Having done performance benchmarking, I can surely understand the time it would have taken to execute all those runs, validating data (rerunning benchmarks if necessary) and then plotting all the results.</p>
<p>I think its easy to get carried away with the title of Pavan&#8217;s blog. 9 Clustrix nodes with 48GB DRAM each = 432GB, incidentally the size of the 5000 warehouse tpcc-mysql database. The core question is if the scalability of Clustrix efficient? I picked one data-point to pursue that question. To make that point, I blogged about it here: <a href="http://darpanetwork.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-scalable-is-clustrix-scalability.html" rel="nofollow">http://darpanetwork.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-scalable-is-clustrix-scalability.html</a><br />
and then put in tpcc-mysql details:<br />
<a href="http://darpanetwork.blogspot.com/2012/01/schoonersql-throughput-with-perconas.html" rel="nofollow">http://darpanetwork.blogspot.com/2012/01/schoonersql-throughput-with-perconas.html</a></p>
<p>BTW I did want to ensure stable environment and results, so I did have a 4 hour long run.</p>
<p>If you provide a cheat-sheet, in addition to the CPU util chart already posted, I will add throughput and latency charts for the run.</p>
<p>So let me ask this: lets say you validated my results. Will you ask the question: for what workloads and price/performance will a Clustrix or similar building-block (with a fraction of throughput capability) be better suited for?</p>
<p>If someone pays me, I will love to do 128 runs for comparison &#8211; any takers? ;-)</p>
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		<title>Comment on More details about SchoonerSQL performance, please! by Darpan Dinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darpan Dinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 06:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Vadim,
Long time no chat :)

We measured MySQL v5.5 and shared results at the April 2011 MySQL User Conference comparing async, semi-sync and Schooner-sync replication between two identical nodes in Master/Slave configuration. For MySQL 5.5 async and semi-sync runs, we ensured slave lag ~&lt; 1 sec by tweaking DBT2 think-time. If this were not done, Slave can get hours behind (slave lag) for every hour of benchmark run.

I believe you are referring to the results in the slides: http://www.slideshare.net/darpandinker/performance-comparisons-and-trade-offs-for-various-my-sql-replication-schemes-presentation

Notice the choppy throughput with async Master and Slave vs more stable throughput with semi-sync for MySQL 5.5. I was hoping you have similar runs and can explain it if you see the same.

If you think MySQL 5.5 async vs semi-sync data doesn&#039;t look right, we can run it again for you and share the results. Given the same benchmark conditions, I would still expect to see 4X throughput gains with SchoonerSQL in reruns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Vadim,<br />
Long time no chat :)</p>
<p>We measured MySQL v5.5 and shared results at the April 2011 MySQL User Conference comparing async, semi-sync and Schooner-sync replication between two identical nodes in Master/Slave configuration. For MySQL 5.5 async and semi-sync runs, we ensured slave lag ~&lt; 1 sec by tweaking DBT2 think-time. If this were not done, Slave can get hours behind (slave lag) for every hour of benchmark run.</p>
<p>I believe you are referring to the results in the slides: <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/darpandinker/performance-comparisons-and-trade-offs-for-various-my-sql-replication-schemes-presentation" rel="nofollow">http://www.slideshare.net/darpandinker/performance-comparisons-and-trade-offs-for-various-my-sql-replication-schemes-presentation</a></p>
<p>Notice the choppy throughput with async Master and Slave vs more stable throughput with semi-sync for MySQL 5.5. I was hoping you have similar runs and can explain it if you see the same.</p>
<p>If you think MySQL 5.5 async vs semi-sync data doesn&#039;t look right, we can run it again for you and share the results. Given the same benchmark conditions, I would still expect to see 4X throughput gains with SchoonerSQL in reruns.</p>
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